i have a tape with Rated R that's been in my cars tape deck for the last past 2 and somewhat years, only thing i pretty much do is crank up the music when i'm half awake driving @ 5 am to work, and the traffic on the lead home.AND that's every time i'm in my car, i'm so cool..FUCKING QoTSA rocks and the gurls looking at me in traffic either want to fuck my brains out cuz i'm listening to QoTSA or cuz i'm just hot, either way Rated R is fucking out there.
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any old boardies who liked LTP as much as older stuff?
Started by MissMaceo, Oct 09 2006 08:57 PM
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:09 AM
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I'm stuck between rated R and S/T.
R shows how much talent the group has
S/T is just awesome
R shows how much talent the group has
S/T is just awesome
i agree with this
i like sftd and ltp too, but its not the same
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:14 AM
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i agree with this
i like sftd and ltp too, but its not the same
i like sftd and ltp too, but its not the same
Why would you want it all to be the same?...progression is good. But alas, seldom do I listen to LTP over R, s/t or SFTD
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:18 AM
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Yeah, it's pretty boring
Might've made a great EP
there needs to be a shake-up in the line-up if you ask me
Might've made a great EP
there needs to be a shake-up in the line-up if you ask me
if qotsa had produced another r, sftd or s/t they would lost cred in my book. ltp is great.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:23 AM
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Why would you want it all to be the same?...progression is good. But alas, seldom do I listen to LTP over R, s/t or SFTD
i dont mean i want it to be the same, i mean it didnt blow my mind the same way R and S/T did
and they do need to shake up the lineup
jho should keep troy and joey, and rebuild from there
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:32 AM
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i dont mean i want it to be the same, i mean it didnt blow my mind the same way R and S/T did
and they do need to shake up the lineup
jho should keep troy and joey, and rebuild from there
and they do need to shake up the lineup
jho should keep troy and joey, and rebuild from there
Agreed, LTP is a good album...but so few are the awesome songs.
Are you implicitly implying that they re-employ Nick O as you didn't mention a bass player there. Hoo ha
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:32 AM
I remember saying before here to someone else who agreed...I don't think Joey's the drummer for this band
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:33 AM
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Agreed, LTP is a good album...but so few are the awesome songs.
Are you implicitly implying that they re-employ Nick O as you didn't mention a bass player there. Hoo ha
Are you implicitly implying that they re-employ Nick O as you didn't mention a bass player there. Hoo ha
nick, or another bass player. whoever fits best.
alain and natasha need to go
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:33 AM
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I remember saying before here to someone else who agreed...I don't think Joey's the drummer for this band
Alfredo Hernandez.....
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:35 AM
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i have a tape with Rated R that's been in my cars tape deck for the last past 2 and somewhat years, only thing i pretty much do is crank up the music when i'm half awake driving @ 5 am to work, and the traffic on the lead home.AND that's every time i'm in my car, i'm so cool..FUCKING QoTSA rocks and the gurls looking at me in traffic either want to fuck my brains out cuz i'm listening to QoTSA or cuz i'm just hot, either way Rated R is fucking out there.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:35 AM
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nick, or another bass player. whoever fits best.
alain and natasha need to go
alain and natasha need to go
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:35 AM
QUOTE(Der Atomsmasher @ Oct 9 2006, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I remember saying before here to someone else who agreed...I don't think Joey's the drummer for this band
i like joey, he didnt fit the first show i saw him play but he's a better fit now
maybe theres a better drummer out there
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:37 AM
Joey C and Mohammed Love You, Howie.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:39 AM
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i like joey, he didnt fit the first show i saw him play but he's a better fit now
maybe theres a better drummer out there
maybe theres a better drummer out there
Yes, his name is Alfredo Hernandez.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:48 AM
if alfredo wants to come back
its up to him and jho
its up to him and jho
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:56 AM
'Fredo's busy with Vic Du Monte's Persona Non Grata now
I've listened to that album 10x as much as LTP
maaaaybe there's another drummer.....hahah
I've listened to that album 10x as much as LTP
maaaaybe there's another drummer.....hahah
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:58 AM
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'Fredo's busy with Vic Du Monte's Persona Non Grata now
I've listened to that album 10x as much as LTP
maaaaybe there's another drummer.....hahah
I've listened to that album 10x as much as LTP
maaaaybe there's another drummer.....hahah
Gene Troutman...
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:02 AM
im not "old school" or whatever but i dont really care.
i dont like ltp as much as the older stuff, but i like it alright. i mean, i think s/t and sftd are my faves. r shows their great range of musical talent, and ltp has some great songs like burn the witch and i never came. so they are all great in their different ways.
but i'm sure that if you took an official consensus, the faves would be s/t and r.
i dont like ltp as much as the older stuff, but i like it alright. i mean, i think s/t and sftd are my faves. r shows their great range of musical talent, and ltp has some great songs like burn the witch and i never came. so they are all great in their different ways.
but i'm sure that if you took an official consensus, the faves would be s/t and r.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:10 AM
It would be nice if QOTSA were a bit more prolific. Like, you take bands like the Minutemen and Black Flag, and they were putting out mutliple albums in a year. It would be nice if QOTSA would be like that so we weren't continually comparing the 4 albums they have made.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:12 AM
i think josh likes to expand his horizons. not that coming out with lots of music is BAD, by any means....but i'd much rather have someone be focusing on quality rather than quantity.... i mean, their actual library isn't nearly as expansive as lots of bands, but their rock is so well thought out and there is such an array of different styles in their catalogue that i am just as satisfied with it as i am with anyone else's catalogue, if not more, just because of the time and effort and thought they put into it.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:16 AM
Then maybe a double album or something... Like Husker Du's "Zen Arcade", or the Minutemen's "Double Nickels on the Dime". Those albums are both brilliant all the way through. Or maybe a concept album, ala the Subhumans' "From the Cradle to the Grave" (though definitely not on the same topic 
). I'm sure they can do it. Josh Homme is one of the most tallented rock geniuses out there, he could do bassicly anything he wants. He could even do a friggin hair metal album, he's got the ability (i just hope he doesn't).
). I'm sure they can do it. Josh Homme is one of the most tallented rock geniuses out there, he could do bassicly anything he wants. He could even do a friggin hair metal album, he's got the ability (i just hope he doesn't).
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:18 AM
well, sftd was kind of a concept album...they all sort of have a theme...
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:21 AM
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It would be nice if QOTSA were a bit more prolific. Like, you take bands like the Minutemen and Black Flag, and they were putting out mutliple albums in a year. It would be nice if QOTSA would be like that so we weren't continually comparing the 4 albums they have made.
hehe
I enjoyed the black metal fairy tale theme of LTP, but as far as the musical content goes, it is my least favorite of all the QOTSA albums. Again, I also grew tired of it quickly and listened to it maybe 3 times. I do appreciate that QOTSA mixes things up. Regardless of my indifference to LTP, I'm still looking forward to their next album.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:41 AM
I've listened to LTP twice. I wouldn't care less if I never heard it again.
I listened to Double Nickel on the Dime earlier today, good shit.
Also, the Hold Steady is a fucking good band. I am going to hand out some copies of this to some peeps, and drag some people to the show.
I listened to Double Nickel on the Dime earlier today, good shit.
Also, the Hold Steady is a fucking good band. I am going to hand out some copies of this to some peeps, and drag some people to the show.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:43 AM
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I've listened to LTP twice. I wouldn't care less if I never heard it again.
to post on this board, you must listen to ltp once a day while praising j.ho., and if thoughts of nick ever cross your mind, you will be banned by the mods
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:46 AM
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to post on this board, you must listen to ltp once a day while praising j.ho., and if thoughts of nick ever cross your mind, you will be banned by the mods
Joey rode my longboard around the parking lot of a Harmony house once. He was trying to do tricks, it was pretty ridiculous. A couple of the guys were there cause Nick was doing an in store set. Josh and Troy were the ones not there, kinda dicks like that, but oh well.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:46 AM
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to post on this board, you must listen to ltp once a day while praising j.ho., and if thoughts of nick ever cross your mind, you will be banned by the mods
It's true, a friend of a friend was shot in the groin for saying "In my Head" is a shit pop song.
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I think the debate is meaningless, Queens Of The Stone Age have recorded four albums, each one has it's own sound and feel and stylistcally each one stands on it's own merits. I thinik alll of them are great, my favorite is Songs For The Deaf because it brings Teh Rock in a big way. The first one also brought the rock and I was happy to hear it because after Kyuss got kicked to the curb I thought that was the end. Rated R was a departure from the heavy and signalled a more experimental side.
I still like Lullabies To Paralyze because they embraced their popularity by writing songs like "Little Sister", that was "pop music" with a heavy edge. If you listen to rock radio in the US a song like that stands out. Most of the Lullabies record was dark but Homme brought the rock again with one of the sickest, heaviest riffs I've evert heard and that would be "Tangled Up In Plaid."
I'm going to rank the Homme legacy and give my opinions based on what I heard when they first came out.:
1) "Blues For The Red Sun"
I'll rank this one at the top of the list because when it first came out in 1992 I was dissapointed with the rock, a friend sent me this record and it made me rethink what rock and roll or "heavy metal" is all about.
2) "Wecome To Sky Valley"
The second Kyuss record had a permanent place on my turntable for years, it sounded so dark and mysterious and much like Zeppelin you never read about these guys or heard them on the radio. When "Sky Valley" showed up at my doorstep I was blown away, I will always include it in my short list of "perfect records." Kyuss was at the top of my list of bands I had to see and then one day in August 2005 I was scanning the Chicago Reader and noticed they were playing a bar by the name of the Empty Bottle on a Wednesday night. To make a long story short I told a few friends who were also Kyuss fans and we all met up at the club. The cover was $5 and there were about a hundred and fifty people in the bar. Kyuss came on around eleven and proceeded to rock the joint.
3) "Songs For The Deaf"
I like the first two Queens albums a whole bunch but this one is my favorite. It's way heavier than the first two and it just rocks like a big dog. The Queens rolled into Chicago with Grohl and played the Metro but that show was sold out and when the Metro is sold out it's really crowded everywhere and uncomfortable. They had a gig in Milwaukee, Wisconsin the next night so we took a pass, made some calls and took a couple of friends up to the Rave in Beer City, USA to seen the Queens. We saw them again in the big old Riviera Theater in Chicago that year. Both shows were very good.
4) The Self Titled First Album
There can be no denying the full on rock of the first Queens album. After Kyuss broke up I thought I would never hear a note from Josh Homme again, I was wrong. I'll never forget the day I made a call to a guy at Loosegrooves Records and asked for a promo of the first Queens record. When I got it I was immediately blown away by "Regular John" and "Mexicola." Let me put it in perspective, this was back when I was promoting concerts and spending way too many nights in the roadhouse. One night I encouraged a few people I knew to go see Fu Manchu at a local bowling allley, one of the guys said "we should start a band like this," I agreed. We decided to start a band called Wotan, My close pal Yukon John and I spent a few weeks in the reheasal room working up the songs for Wotan and one cold December night we quit reheasal, hopped in the car and headed to the Empty Bottle for the first Chicago appearance of the Queens of The Stone Age. After we took off our winter coats, hat's and gloves we hit the bar for some libations.
The room was the same small tavern I saw Kyuss in years ago. They came out and played the entire first album and then encored with a long version of "Cake (Who Shit On The?) from the 2nd Desert Sessions.
5) Rated R
A bunch of you guys rate this record high on your list of Queens records. I'll have to disagree to disagree. This one is the first record that got "mellow" and I respect that. My favorite one from this is "Better Living Through Chemistry." I rank this one number five by default, it's like saying "you've got five daughters, four won gold medals but the fifth one a silver."
When this record came out I saw them in a sweaty club called the Double Door and the Queens brought the rock and then in the Fall at the Metro and at the Metro the rock quotient was off the charts.
I still like Lullabies To Paralyze because they embraced their popularity by writing songs like "Little Sister", that was "pop music" with a heavy edge. If you listen to rock radio in the US a song like that stands out. Most of the Lullabies record was dark but Homme brought the rock again with one of the sickest, heaviest riffs I've evert heard and that would be "Tangled Up In Plaid."
I'm going to rank the Homme legacy and give my opinions based on what I heard when they first came out.:
1) "Blues For The Red Sun"
I'll rank this one at the top of the list because when it first came out in 1992 I was dissapointed with the rock, a friend sent me this record and it made me rethink what rock and roll or "heavy metal" is all about.
2) "Wecome To Sky Valley"
The second Kyuss record had a permanent place on my turntable for years, it sounded so dark and mysterious and much like Zeppelin you never read about these guys or heard them on the radio. When "Sky Valley" showed up at my doorstep I was blown away, I will always include it in my short list of "perfect records." Kyuss was at the top of my list of bands I had to see and then one day in August 2005 I was scanning the Chicago Reader and noticed they were playing a bar by the name of the Empty Bottle on a Wednesday night. To make a long story short I told a few friends who were also Kyuss fans and we all met up at the club. The cover was $5 and there were about a hundred and fifty people in the bar. Kyuss came on around eleven and proceeded to rock the joint.
3) "Songs For The Deaf"
I like the first two Queens albums a whole bunch but this one is my favorite. It's way heavier than the first two and it just rocks like a big dog. The Queens rolled into Chicago with Grohl and played the Metro but that show was sold out and when the Metro is sold out it's really crowded everywhere and uncomfortable. They had a gig in Milwaukee, Wisconsin the next night so we took a pass, made some calls and took a couple of friends up to the Rave in Beer City, USA to seen the Queens. We saw them again in the big old Riviera Theater in Chicago that year. Both shows were very good.
4) The Self Titled First Album
There can be no denying the full on rock of the first Queens album. After Kyuss broke up I thought I would never hear a note from Josh Homme again, I was wrong. I'll never forget the day I made a call to a guy at Loosegrooves Records and asked for a promo of the first Queens record. When I got it I was immediately blown away by "Regular John" and "Mexicola." Let me put it in perspective, this was back when I was promoting concerts and spending way too many nights in the roadhouse. One night I encouraged a few people I knew to go see Fu Manchu at a local bowling allley, one of the guys said "we should start a band like this," I agreed. We decided to start a band called Wotan, My close pal Yukon John and I spent a few weeks in the reheasal room working up the songs for Wotan and one cold December night we quit reheasal, hopped in the car and headed to the Empty Bottle for the first Chicago appearance of the Queens of The Stone Age. After we took off our winter coats, hat's and gloves we hit the bar for some libations.
The room was the same small tavern I saw Kyuss in years ago. They came out and played the entire first album and then encored with a long version of "Cake (Who Shit On The?) from the 2nd Desert Sessions.
5) Rated R
A bunch of you guys rate this record high on your list of Queens records. I'll have to disagree to disagree. This one is the first record that got "mellow" and I respect that. My favorite one from this is "Better Living Through Chemistry." I rank this one number five by default, it's like saying "you've got five daughters, four won gold medals but the fifth one a silver."
When this record came out I saw them in a sweaty club called the Double Door and the Queens brought the rock and then in the Fall at the Metro and at the Metro the rock quotient was off the charts.
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