108 replies to this topic

[StrangeLight]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

[Stickman]

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

this is another possibility I've considered.

[princesspetulance]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

I wish you could tell this to the gazillion morons emailing/posting OBAMA, HE'S A MUSLIM, OH NOESSS!!!!!111 all over teh intraweb.

WE DON'T CARE.

Bush is a christian. That fuckin' gives christians the worst reputation they've had since the goddamn inquisition.

I'd probably vote for a goddamn cthulian cultist at the moment faster than I would another christian. OLD ONES IN 08

[CJ]

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

I wish you could tell this to the gazillion morons emailing/posting OBAMA, HE'S A MUSLIM, OH NOESSS!!!!!111 all over teh intraweb.

WE DON'T CARE.

Bush is a christian. That fuckin' gives christians the worst reputation they've had since the goddamn inquisition.

I'd probably vote for a goddamn cthulian cultist at the moment faster than I would another christian. OLD ONES IN 08

An individual that's rumored to be Muslim, that just appeared on the congressional scene a few years ago, and oh hey, we're in the middle of a war in the Middle East with Muslim extremists is a dicey proposition. I don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge the potential for danger in this situation. Or do you honestly think it's so bad that it's worth gambling over?

[princesspetulance]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

I wish you could tell this to the gazillion morons emailing/posting OBAMA, HE'S A MUSLIM, OH NOESSS!!!!!111 all over teh intraweb.

WE DON'T CARE.

Bush is a christian. That fuckin' gives christians the worst reputation they've had since the goddamn inquisition.

I'd probably vote for a goddamn cthulian cultist at the moment faster than I would another christian. OLD ONES IN 08

An individual that's rumored to be Muslim, that just appeared on the congressional scene a few years ago, and oh hey, we're in the middle of a war in the Middle East with Muslim extremists is a dicey proposition. I don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge the potential for danger in this situation. Or do you honestly think it's so bad that it's worth gambling over?

let's see: "rumored to be muslim" vs. "bonafide batshit crazy"? I'll take option A pls. didn't we cover this already?

[StrangeLight]

dude... rumoured to be muslim? well, andi, you're rumoured to be a fucking axe murderer that shows up to people's houses unannounced carrying a sweater--oh, wait. sorry.

and he may have just "shown up" on the national political scene in 2004, but he's been kicking around illinois politics since the mid-90s, he's been a professor at a large, well-known institution, he had been notable in harvard as the first black president of the law review. it's not like he appeared out of thin air and lacks a paper trail of his life just because this is the first time you've heard of him.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

I wish you could tell this to the gazillion morons emailing/posting OBAMA, HE'S A MUSLIM, OH NOESSS!!!!!111 all over teh intraweb.

WE DON'T CARE.

Bush is a christian. That fuckin' gives christians the worst reputation they've had since the goddamn inquisition.

I'd probably vote for a goddamn cthulian cultist at the moment faster than I would another christian. OLD ONES IN 08

An individual that's rumored to be Muslim, that just appeared on the congressional scene a few years ago, and oh hey, we're in the middle of a war in the Middle East with Muslim extremists is a dicey proposition. I don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge the potential for danger in this situation. Or do you honestly think it's so bad that it's worth gambling over?

let's see: "rumored to be muslim" vs. "bonafide batshit crazy"? I'll take option A pls. didn't we cover this already?

no, "we" didn't. YOU jumped to the conclusion that such an approach was insane because it was too prudent for your taste. So bet it. But this wouldn't be the first time the American public has rushed into something without getting all the facts first.

[StrangeLight]

all the information there is is already out there for your reading, andi. try to use news outlets and sites that end in .edu though... otherwise you could get a bit lost.

it's really difficult to prove a negation of something. how can obama PROVE he's not muslim? the reaction will always and forever be, "we just haven't found the proof yet, but it's out there!!" and what's wrong even if he was muslim? he ain't, but what if he was? what's so skerry about a muslim to you?

[princesspetulance]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

I wish you could tell this to the gazillion morons emailing/posting OBAMA, HE'S A MUSLIM, OH NOESSS!!!!!111 all over teh intraweb.

WE DON'T CARE.

Bush is a christian. That fuckin' gives christians the worst reputation they've had since the goddamn inquisition.

I'd probably vote for a goddamn cthulian cultist at the moment faster than I would another christian. OLD ONES IN 08

An individual that's rumored to be Muslim, that just appeared on the congressional scene a few years ago, and oh hey, we're in the middle of a war in the Middle East with Muslim extremists is a dicey proposition. I don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge the potential for danger in this situation. Or do you honestly think it's so bad that it's worth gambling over?

let's see: "rumored to be muslim" vs. "bonafide batshit crazy"? I'll take option A pls. didn't we cover this already?

no, "we" didn't. YOU jumped to the conclusion that such an approach was insane because it was too prudent for your taste. So bet it. But this wouldn't be the first time the American public has rushed into something without getting all the facts first.

Fortunately I don't have to prove anyone right other than myself cuz some of yiz are real slow to catch on.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

dude... rumoured to be muslim? well, andi, you're rumoured to be a fucking axe murderer that shows up to people's houses unannounced carrying a sweater--oh, wait. sorry.

and he may have just "shown up" on the national political scene in 2004, but he's been kicking around illinois politics since the mid-90s, he's been a professor at a large, well-known institution, he had been notable in harvard as the first black president of the law review. it's not like he appeared out of thin air and lacks a paper trail of his life just because this is the first time you've heard of him.

yeah, but the difference is I'M not the one that's being elected landlord in the midst of series of home invasions.  


And I'm not basing this entirely off of my sole perception. I'm aware that this person has a past, but it seems to me that the national exposure he's been given is pretty fast and sudden. It feels, to me, like we're being led. It's too much at once. It feels like some company has come out with a brand-new product and don't you want to be the first person to line up and buy it? No, I don't. I'll wait, thanks. If he's legit, then none of these doubts will last. Easiest way to separate the fact from the chaff.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

I wish you could tell this to the gazillion morons emailing/posting OBAMA, HE'S A MUSLIM, OH NOESSS!!!!!111 all over teh intraweb.

WE DON'T CARE.

Bush is a christian. That fuckin' gives christians the worst reputation they've had since the goddamn inquisition.

I'd probably vote for a goddamn cthulian cultist at the moment faster than I would another christian. OLD ONES IN 08

An individual that's rumored to be Muslim, that just appeared on the congressional scene a few years ago, and oh hey, we're in the middle of a war in the Middle East with Muslim extremists is a dicey proposition. I don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge the potential for danger in this situation. Or do you honestly think it's so bad that it's worth gambling over?

let's see: "rumored to be muslim" vs. "bonafide batshit crazy"? I'll take option A pls. didn't we cover this already?

no, "we" didn't. YOU jumped to the conclusion that such an approach was insane because it was too prudent for your taste. So bet it. But this wouldn't be the first time the American public has rushed into something without getting all the facts first.

Fortunately I don't have to prove anyone right other than myself cuz some of yiz are real slow to catch on.

maybe so. But I'm more a "measure twice; cut once" kinda guy. I'm sorry if that makes me substandard in your eyes.

[Stickman]

You have to be a fucking idiot to not have seens the 500 reports that disprove the lie of any sort of Muslim background for Obama. Either that or you just want it to be true so badly that you treat it like Santa Claus when you were 11, knowing its a myth, but one that's too cherished to let go.

[princesspetulance]

dude... rumoured to be muslim? well, andi, you're rumoured to be a fucking axe murderer that shows up to people's houses unannounced carrying a sweater--oh, wait. sorry.

and he may have just "shown up" on the national political scene in 2004, but he's been kicking around illinois politics since the mid-90s, he's been a professor at a large, well-known institution, he had been notable in harvard as the first black president of the law review. it's not like he appeared out of thin air and lacks a paper trail of his life just because this is the first time you've heard of him.

yeah, but the difference is I'M not the one that's being elected landlord in the midst of series of home invasions.  


And I'm not basing this entirely off of my sole perception. I'm aware that this person has a past, but it seems to me that the national exposure he's been given is pretty fast and sudden. It feels, to me, like we're being led. It's too much at once. It feels like some company has come out with a brand-new product and don't you want to be the first person to line up and buy it? No, I don't. I'll wait, thanks. If he's legit, then none of these doubts will last. Easiest way to separate the fact from the chaff.

oh, sure, I don't want to try Herbal Obama so I'll stick with McCain and Shoulders, even though I know it tests on bunnies and burns out my eyeballs? real logicalistic there.

[StrangeLight]

.... you'll wait till he loses the primary, or the general, and decides not to run for president again?

george w. was pretty new on the national scene. he sucked.
bill clinton was just as new as obama on the national scene. actually LESS exposed to it. he was fairly sucky, but no where near the suckitude of w.

if being on the national stage for a really long time was the main criterion of being trustworthy or vetted, well... nixon. yeah.

[Wang Broom]

all the information there is is already out there for your reading, andi. try to use news outlets and sites that end in .edu though... otherwise you could get a bit lost.

it's really difficult to prove a negation of something. how can obama PROVE he's not muslim? the reaction will always and forever be, "we just haven't found the proof yet, but it's out there!!" and what's wrong even if he was muslim? he ain't, but what if he was? what's so skerry about a muslim to you?

Smart + Sexy = Danger Will Robinson  

[princesspetulance]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

I wish you could tell this to the gazillion morons emailing/posting OBAMA, HE'S A MUSLIM, OH NOESSS!!!!!111 all over teh intraweb.

WE DON'T CARE.

Bush is a christian. That fuckin' gives christians the worst reputation they've had since the goddamn inquisition.

I'd probably vote for a goddamn cthulian cultist at the moment faster than I would another christian. OLD ONES IN 08

An individual that's rumored to be Muslim, that just appeared on the congressional scene a few years ago, and oh hey, we're in the middle of a war in the Middle East with Muslim extremists is a dicey proposition. I don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge the potential for danger in this situation. Or do you honestly think it's so bad that it's worth gambling over?

let's see: "rumored to be muslim" vs. "bonafide batshit crazy"? I'll take option A pls. didn't we cover this already?

no, "we" didn't. YOU jumped to the conclusion that such an approach was insane because it was too prudent for your taste. So bet it. But this wouldn't be the first time the American public has rushed into something without getting all the facts first.

Fortunately I don't have to prove anyone right other than myself cuz some of yiz are real slow to catch on.

maybe so. But I'm more a "measure twice; cut once" kinda guy. I'm sorry if that makes me substandard in your eyes.

Your apology is accepted, inferiorite.

[StrangeLight]

all the information there is is already out there for your reading, andi. try to use news outlets and sites that end in .edu though... otherwise you could get a bit lost.

it's really difficult to prove a negation of something. how can obama PROVE he's not muslim? the reaction will always and forever be, "we just haven't found the proof yet, but it's out there!!" and what's wrong even if he was muslim? he ain't, but what if he was? what's so skerry about a muslim to you?

Smart + Sexy = Danger Will Robinson  

good thing i'm not sexy.

[imhotep]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

well, it wasn't unreported that obama went to school at a madrassa. that is widely reported. it was a secular madrassa in indonesia. he talks about it frequently. and someone saying to you "i heard obama was a muslim!!" is not reporting anything. that's bullshit some racist idiots made up and emailed everywhere because of his name and the fact that distant relatives he only met in his adult life were muslim.

I wish you could tell this to the gazillion morons emailing/posting OBAMA, HE'S A MUSLIM, OH NOESSS!!!!!111 all over teh intraweb.

WE DON'T CARE.

Bush is a christian. That fuckin' gives christians the worst reputation they've had since the goddamn inquisition.

I'd probably vote for a goddamn cthulian cultist at the moment faster than I would another christian. OLD ONES IN 08

An individual that's rumored to be Muslim, that just appeared on the congressional scene a few years ago, and oh hey, we're in the middle of a war in the Middle East with Muslim extremists is a dicey proposition. I don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge the potential for danger in this situation. Or do you honestly think it's so bad that it's worth gambling over?

You sound like a Pol Pot cronie. Let's kill him off. He knows Vietnamese!

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

.... you'll wait till he loses the primary, or the general, and decides not to run for president again?

george w. was pretty new on the national scene. he sucked.
bill clinton was just as new as obama on the national scene. actually LESS exposed to it. he was fairly sucky, but no where near the suckitude of w.

if being on the national stage for a really long time was the main criterion of being trustworthy or vetted, well... nixon. yeah.

see? "If I wait, I'll miss out!" Sounds like sales tactic. Besides, I'm not a registered Democrat. As far as I remember, I'm not able to vote in the primary.


Jesus, the election's months away. Why are you people getting so uptight about this? Relax already.

[StrangeLight]

.... you'll wait till he loses the primary, or the general, and decides not to run for president again?

george w. was pretty new on the national scene. he sucked.
bill clinton was just as new as obama on the national scene. actually LESS exposed to it. he was fairly sucky, but no where near the suckitude of w.

if being on the national stage for a really long time was the main criterion of being trustworthy or vetted, well... nixon. yeah.

see? "If I wait, I'll miss out!" Sounds like sales tactic. Besides, I'm not a registered Democrat. As far as I remember, I'm not able to vote in the primary.

your primary has come and gone, but some states have open primaries, so you can vote in them without being registered dem.

it's not so much... if i wait i'll miss out. it's, if i wait, i'll have 4 years of someone else, or 8 years, and right now we kinda need this guy.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

.... you'll wait till he loses the primary, or the general, and decides not to run for president again?

george w. was pretty new on the national scene. he sucked.
bill clinton was just as new as obama on the national scene. actually LESS exposed to it. he was fairly sucky, but no where near the suckitude of w.

if being on the national stage for a really long time was the main criterion of being trustworthy or vetted, well... nixon. yeah.

see? "If I wait, I'll miss out!" Sounds like sales tactic. Besides, I'm not a registered Democrat. As far as I remember, I'm not able to vote in the primary.

your primary has come and gone, but some states have open primaries, so you can vote in them without being registered dem.

it's not so much... if i wait i'll miss out. it's, if i wait, i'll have 4 years of someone else, or 8 years, and right now we kinda need this guy.

yeah, IF he is what he appears to be.

[imhotep]

.... you'll wait till he loses the primary, or the general, and decides not to run for president again?

george w. was pretty new on the national scene. he sucked.
bill clinton was just as new as obama on the national scene. actually LESS exposed to it. he was fairly sucky, but no where near the suckitude of w.

if being on the national stage for a really long time was the main criterion of being trustworthy or vetted, well... nixon. yeah.

see? "If I wait, I'll miss out!" Sounds like sales tactic. Besides, I'm not a registered Democrat. As far as I remember, I'm not able to vote in the primary.

your primary has come and gone, but some states have open primaries, so you can vote in them without being registered dem.

it's not so much... if i wait i'll miss out. it's, if i wait, i'll have 4 years of someone else, or 8 years, and right now we kinda need this guy.

yeah, IF he is what he appears to be.

You are paranoid. Who knows anyone, really? Many serial killers are functional people. Can you trust anyone?

[Wang Broom]

My .02, I feel based on a small totally unscientific poll conducted by me, that most folks that are even remotely close to being democrats are going to vote a straight ticket, regardless of the candidate.

They don't care who is it, as long as there is a hope that it may balance the scales.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

.... you'll wait till he loses the primary, or the general, and decides not to run for president again?

george w. was pretty new on the national scene. he sucked.
bill clinton was just as new as obama on the national scene. actually LESS exposed to it. he was fairly sucky, but no where near the suckitude of w.

if being on the national stage for a really long time was the main criterion of being trustworthy or vetted, well... nixon. yeah.

see? "If I wait, I'll miss out!" Sounds like sales tactic. Besides, I'm not a registered Democrat. As far as I remember, I'm not able to vote in the primary.

your primary has come and gone, but some states have open primaries, so you can vote in them without being registered dem.

it's not so much... if i wait i'll miss out. it's, if i wait, i'll have 4 years of someone else, or 8 years, and right now we kinda need this guy.

yeah, IF he is what he appears to be.

You are paranoid. Who knows anyone, really? Many serial killers are functional people. Can you trust anyone?

no. I don't.

My perspective maybe overly paranoid, but to me, this is the time to be the most careful, because we're all so desperate for change. If the possibility of a power much bigger than a bipartisan system is real, then we're simply playing into their hands, like a person who hasn't gotten laid in so long, they're willing to screw anything. That power MUST know how willing we are to take a risk; in fact, they may be counting on it.

But, admittedly, it's probably nothing. Obama is most likely what he appears.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

My .02, I feel based on a small totally unscientific poll conducted by me, that most folks that are even remotely close to being democrats are going to vote a straight ticket, regardless of the candidate.

They don't care who is it, as long as there is a hope that it may balance the scales.

exactly.  But now we're going to fight over which democrat is going to get elected, like it matters. Because, contrary to conventional wisdom, we suddenly have a honest politician.

[StrangeLight]

andi, are you having questions about who mccain really is? or who hillary really is?

or is just the guy named hussein obama? because he's "new" (to you).

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

andi, are you having questions about who mccain really is? or who hillary really is?

or is just the guy named hussein obama? because he's "new" (to you).

I have questions about all of them. But a)Obama supporters are rabid, and I distrust that and b)the other 2 have been around long enough that I'll know what I'm getting, simply by looking at their wikipedia page. Obama's an unknown quantity, due to his lack of history. Could be good; could be really bad. I haven't made up my mind.


His name isn't what bothers me. If there was a candidate that was white, with an English last name, but was rumored to actually be a Muslim, at this period of time, I'd still be concerned.

[imhotep]

andi, are you having questions about who mccain really is? or who hillary really is?

or is just the guy named hussein obama? because he's "new" (to you).

I have questions about all of them. But a)Obama supporters are rabid, and I distrust that and b)the other 2 have been around long enough that I'll know what I'm getting, simply by looking at their wikipedia page. Obama's an unknown quantity, due to his lack of history. Could be good; could be really bad. I haven't made up my mind.


His name isn't what bothers me. If there was a candidate that was white, with an English last name, but was rumored to actually be a Muslim, at this period of time, I'd still be concerned.

You would have been a good idiot in Soviet Russia.