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[redqueen]

Who Doesn't Wanna Blow Him Now?

Pre-Show: No, major news media, for the most part, most voters don't give a fuck about Rev. Jeremiah Wright's occasional rhetorical flourishes when he's preaching. Most voters are actually smart enough to separate Obama from that. But you got 24 hours to fill and you're afraid of Fox "news" getting viewers, so there ya go.

Right now, the Rude Pundit's listening to some fucktard on MSNBC, Jonathan Capeheart of the Washington Post, say that when the Wright story broke, he had "friends" who supported Obama who were "worried" that other people would be upset about Obama's church. You got that? These people, who, if they are friends of Capeheart, must be smart, 'cause he's a black guy who wears poindexter glasses, weren't worried about their support of Obama. No, they're smart enough, because they are friends of Capeheart, who, it should be pointed out, is a black guy who wears poindexter glasses and looks not unlike Raj on What's Happening. It's all the other people who Capeheart's friends are worried about. Why should they be worried? Because it's fuckers like Capeheart who have made this into a story that would worry their oh-so-smarter-than-the-rubes friends.

'Cause, like, the Rude Pundit wants every candidate's advisors and allies vetted for every time one of them said something potentially offensive that's YouTube-ready. And then he wants the candidates to have to have to make a statement about it.

(Note: the Rude Pundit thought the uproar over Ferraro was nonsensical, but what Ferraro said was a directly offensive remark about the candidate.)

The show:
10:53: Fuck the black part of Obama. Someone's fuckin' Dumbo ears need to get pinned.

10:54: Throws mad props to Philadelphia for the Declaration of Independence, oh, but, snap, says how the Founders bailed on slavery.

10:57: Says flat out what his racial background is and ties it to the Greatest Generation. His wife's to slavery. No denial of the multiracial nature of his life.

10:58: Nice line about how his story is only possible is in America.

10:59: Damn. We're not used to this sort of honesty from a candidate. Can't compute. Cynicism circuit shorting out.

11:00: Talking about Wright, he's gonna hang the Reverend out to dry, says Wright's comments present a "distorted" view of America. Whew. Thank god, the cynicism circuit can work again.

11:02: Oh, shit, now he's getting Wright's back. Saying that Wright's a Marine who has credibility, intelligence, compassion. Shorting out again.

11:03: Reading from his own book. Amazon braces for Oprah-like surge in sales.

11:05: Goes to bat for black churches in general. Talks about how services go, the raucousness and embodiment of the black community within them. Even addresses how this scares many white people, who prefer to pray looking at their groins.

11:06: Wright is "like family...I could no more disown him than disown the black community. I could no more disown him than I could disown my white grandmother" who said she was afraid of black men who passed her on the street. Clinton's people write a speech about how her grandfather slapped Mexicans, yet she still loves him.

11:07: "These people are part of me" and are part of America, he says.

11:09: Calls bullshit on those who want to emphasize Wright over real issues.

11:10: Goes to town on how racial discrimination still affects America, in schools, in business, how there's a lack of educational and economic opportunity, contributing to the erosion of families and communities. He even brings up busing. Shit. He's really fuckin' good.

11:12: Explains how Wright comes out of the days of segregation. And how racism still controls how the black community reacts. He's actually saying, in a major speech, the shit we've been saying out here in the hinterlands of power for years.

11:13: The fact that people are surprised at Wright's angry sermons points to how divided people really are.

11:15: Most middle class white Americans feel anger, too. Because of jobs going overseas and other shit that Republicans (and Democrats) have done.

11:16: Addresses affirmative action and welfare anger and how politicians and the media have exploited those things. How the Reagan Revolution was based on it. The Rude Pundit gets an erection.

11:17: Talks about "A racial stalemate we've been stuck in for years...I've never been so naive as to think one election" can erase the racial divide.

11:19: We must "take full responsibility for our own lives" by families being stronger. Teach our children "never to succumb to despair or cynicism."

11:20: Brings it back to Wright. Mistake was that Wright "spoke as if our society was stagnant." Mentions the "audacity to hope," thus plugging his second book. Amazon braces for more.

11:21: White community needs to acknowledge that racism the black community perceives is not just in the minds of black people. He's really laying it all on the line.

11:22: Says we should live by the golden rule. And other biblical mumbo-jumbo and let "our politics reflect that."

11:23: Brings up OJ, Katrina, Wright, says we can keep race as a divisive issue and "nothing will change." This is the straightest talk this blogger has heard from a major presidential candidate in a very, very long time, maybe, truly, without hyperbole, in his lifetime.

11:24: Or, he says, we can actually do something "this time." Brings it back to education, health care, economics.

11:26: Oh, and did I mention that the war "shouldn't have been authorized or waged."

11:27: "This unions may not be perfect, but... it can always be perfected." That'll be the line that's quoted endlessly. Like here.

In some hotel room, maybe in Pennsylvania, who knows, Hillary Clinton is shitting blood. Mark Penn is on his Blackberry, furiously commanding that a commercial be made that shows Obama saying that Wright "is family" while showing the Reverend shouting all black and scary.

Somewhere in the Middle East, John McCain wonders if there's a small cage he can crawl into until it's all over.

Bottom line: that was a motherfuckin' speech by a motherfuckin' President of the United States. You remember what that's like? No, not here either.

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Link to text of Barack's speech.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/18...ef=mpstoryemail

[StrangeLight]

that was an excellent read. and a great speech.

a lot of people were pissed about what wright was saying, but... with the exception of the government giving people AIDS, i think a lot of it was on solid ground. just... shouty and hyperbolic. but he's a black pastor, ffs, that's what they do.

[Juicy]

I love both of you bitches so hard.

[redqueen]

Heheh... right on Juice, and back atcha. *love*


Was that not the shit? Hahaha... favorite part:

"11:16: Addresses affirmative action and welfare anger and how politicians and the media have exploited those things. How the Reagan Revolution was based on it. The Rude Pundit gets an erection."

<3

[StrangeLight]

that was one of my favourite parts too.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

I want to hear the speech now, after his comments yesterday and the amplification of this "issue".

Pisses me off how much I enjoy hearing him speak, and agree with what he's saying.

[redqueen]

Pisses me off how much I enjoy hearing him speak.

Cynicism dies hard, eh?

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

I'm still not entirely sold on him, but yeah. Basically.

[StrangeLight]

speech is on youtube if you search for it, andi.

that dude can thread the needle, let me tell you.

[redqueen]

I didn't know it was on youtube... I haven't seen the speech, only read the transcript.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

speech is on youtube if you search for it, andi.

that dude can thread the needle, let me tell you.

I'm at work right now, unfortunately.

What little I've heard from him is impressive. But I'm still going to research the hell out of all of these candidates thoroughly before the next election.

[redqueen]

Here's the youtube link for the speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU...m=102&page=


Andi, happy researching.

[Howie]

haven't heard the speech yet.  did it put you young whippersnappers in your place?

i'll youtube it when i get home

[redqueen]

haven't heard the speech yet.  did it put you young whippersnappers in your place?

i'll youtube it when i get home

I've heard it hailed as the modern version of the "I have a dream" speech... and also dismissed as nothing but a cheap campaign ass-covering stunt. So it kinda depends on your perspective, how you'll see it. I think you'll like it.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

quick question: where does Obama get his campaigning funds from?

[Juicy]

I think I like it!  

[redqueen]

As I understand it, the vast majority of his donations are under $100, and come from individuals.

He has received some PAC money in the past, but I'm not sure if that was for his presidential campaign. He no longer accepts it. It's a murky issue because he did accept it and he has used PAC money to help fund other candidates and to promote his campaign in Iowa, so... *shrug*

[Howie]

haven't heard the speech yet.  did it put you young whippersnappers in your place?

i'll youtube it when i get home

I've heard it hailed as the modern version of the "I have a dream" speech... and also dismissed as nothing but a cheap campaign ass-covering stunt. So it kinda depends on your perspective, how you'll see it. I think you'll like it.

if that's what people are saying, i'll get my popcorn ready as soon as i get home, kick back, and enjoy

i'm glad he's confronting the issue, not letting his opponents define him on it

[redqueen]

if that's what people are saying, i'll get my popcorn ready as soon as i get home, kick back, and enjoy

i'm glad he's confronting the issue, not letting his opponents define him on it

I'll admit it - I teared up reading it. And yeah... I expected him to use this as an opportunity to address the issue... and not just race... but more importantly - the politics of distract & divide.

It's nice to see a candidate talking about unity and feeling optimistic and hopeful... marked contrast from the last time I heard those words.

[Howie]

if that's what people are saying, i'll get my popcorn ready as soon as i get home, kick back, and enjoy

i'm glad he's confronting the issue, not letting his opponents define him on it

I'll admit it - I teared up reading it. And yeah... I expected him to use this as an opportunity to address the issue not just of race but of the politics of distract & divide.

It's nice to see a candidate talking about unity and feeling optimistic and hopeful... marked contrast from the last time I heard those words.

"i'm a uniter, not a divider.  heh heh heh."

yeah this guy seems legit.  and if he won't be swiftboated, that's the icing on the cake

[redqueen]

Exactly. We all saw how that went.

[TheAceRock.]

that was an impressive speech.

[CJ]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

as the saying goes, if it's too good to be true, it generally isn't.

we'll see.

[StrangeLight]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

[CJ]

carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off.

Not the first time I've heard that...
*shifty eyes*

[redqueen]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

That's exactly what I was thinking early in this primary.

It was his vote for open government and Hillary's vote against, as well as her being a leader in the DLC that finally swayed me towards Obama. But with each passing day I'm more sure I made the right decision.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

He sounds too good to be true.
Having the same problem as Andi here.

well, that speech was given to counteract the speeches his pastor has been making... carazy speeches about the US government infecting black people with AIDS to kill them off. so... he's not perfect. he's just intelligent and speaks (relatively) candidly.

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist run church akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seems plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the overall analysis.

[redqueen]

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seem plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the big picture.

And even if it is a problem, weigh the alternative... Hillary's a member of The Fellowship. Do some reading on that little club.

[AnDi-ChRiSt]

the thing I'm not sold on is his past with this church. The same individual that reported that Obama was a Muslim, has also told me about Obama's unreported education at a madrossa(sp?). Also, the rumors regarding the Church of Christ actually being a black-fundamentalist akin to that of a Black Panther-esque organization seem plausible to me, but I'm not convinced that either of these possibilities is really a problem in the big picture.

And even if it is a problem, weigh the alternative... Hillary's a member of The Fellowship. Do some reading on that little club.

*chuckles*
exactly. I did some research on the whole Whitewater thing and, lo and behold! All the people that were directly involved in the scandal have all died. Quelle coincidence!