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#1 calysto

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 01:54 AM

Anyone heared of that?

In my opinion the best evidence to proof this subject has nothing to do with freaky conspiracy theories.
Itīs about science.

here is a video of a presentation Blueprint for Truth

and this is the website A&E for 9/11 Truth


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Posted 28 January 2011 - 03:42 AM

Yeah it is about science, and it's not on their side.



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Posted 28 January 2011 - 04:16 AM

QUOTE(calysto @ Jan 28 2011, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone heared of that?

In my opinion the best evidence to proof this subject has nothing to do with freaky conspiracy theories.
Itīs about science.

here is a video of a presentation Blueprint for Truth

and this is the website A&E for 9/11 Truth

wow so you are one of those people?

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 02:19 PM

QUOTE(TheHorseMaster @ Jan 28 2011, 04:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah it is about science, and it's not on their side.


Ever seen Blueprint for Truth?

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE(kyussfreak @ Jan 28 2011, 05:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(calysto @ Jan 28 2011, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone heared of that?

In my opinion the best evidence to proof this subject has nothing to do with freaky conspiracy theories.
Itīs about science.

here is a video of a presentation Blueprint for Truth

and this is the website A&E for 9/11 Truth

wow so you are one of those people?


Yes, this makes more sense to me than the 9/11 commission report.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 03:19 PM

QUOTE(calysto @ Jan 28 2011, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(kyussfreak @ Jan 28 2011, 05:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(calysto @ Jan 28 2011, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone heared of that?

In my opinion the best evidence to proof this subject has nothing to do with freaky conspiracy theories.
Itīs about science.

here is a video of a presentation Blueprint for Truth

and this is the website A&E for 9/11 Truth

wow so you are one of those people?


Yes, this makes more sense to me than the 9/11 commission report.

what about it makes sense?

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 03:23 PM

Your a fucking retard if all it took to convince you of this nonsense was a half assed low rent documentary by some washed up architect , who can't even address the most basic criticisms, of what he's attempting to pass off as theories.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 03:28 PM

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Your a fucking retard if all it took to convince you of this nonsense was a half assed low rent documentary by some washed up architect , who can't even address the most basic criticisms, of what he's attempting to pass off as theories.

the guy is from germany. those foriegners will believe anything

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 03:30 PM

some guy i was talking to on the train one time told me that there was a reason there were no cabs in the vicinity of the wtc when it happned. 90% of ny cabbies are muslim. people are stupid

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 03:40 PM

my whole problem with the conspiracy theorist is this. do you know how much manpower it would take to pull of something like this? the government can pay any amount to keep these peoples mouths shut but in the end they would get much much more money for film rights and a book deal. so where are these people that made it happen? how come they havent come foward? if i was sitting on millions of dollars it would be hard for me to keep my mouth shut.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 04:35 PM

Like the glorious col hunter gathers once said, "the minute god crapped out the third caveman a conspiracy was hatched against one of them."

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 04:41 PM

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Your a fucking retard if all it took to convince you of this nonsense was a half assed low rent documentary by some washed up architect , who can't even address the most basic criticisms, of what he's attempting to pass off as theories.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(TheHorseMaster @ Jan 28 2011, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your a fucking retard if all it took to convince you of this nonsense was a half assed low rent documentary by some washed up architect , who can't even address the most basic criticisms, of what he's attempting to pass off as theories.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:01 PM

Language is a tool used to convey ideas, people that obsess over the difference between your and you're miss the fucking point. It's why english majors don't make shit, and people who speak tone based languages laugh at you.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:04 PM

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Language is a tool used to convey ideas, people that obsess over the difference between your and you're miss the fucking point. It's why english majors don't make shit, and people who speak tone based languages laugh at you.


I think it was more sarcasm aimed at other board inhabitants, rather than being an actual grammar nazi.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:04 PM

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Language is a tool used to convey ideas, people that obsess over the difference between your and you're miss the fucking point. It's why english majors don't make shit, and people who speak tone based languages laugh at you.

if you cant tell by the laughing emoticons after my post meant it was a joke (and not even actually at your expense, but the departed sally's) then you missed my point entirely.  
i make more typos than a publishing house full of dyslexics, yiou know?

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(TheHorseMaster @ Jan 28 2011, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Language is a tool used to convey ideas, people that obsess over the difference between your and you're miss the fucking point. It's why english majors don't make shit, and people who speak tone based languages laugh at you.

if you cant tell by the laughing emoticons after my post meant it was a joke (and not even actually at your expense, but the departed sally's) then you missed my point entirely.  
i make more typos than a publishing house full of dyslexics, yiou know?

calm down shitstand. horses heart is in the right place

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:09 PM

I will destroy your and you're. And everyone english majors, just to be safe.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:12 PM

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Language is a tool used to convey ideas, people that obsess over the difference between your and you're miss the fucking point. It's why english majors don't make shit, and people who speak tone based languages laugh at you.

if you cant tell by the laughing emoticons after my post meant it was a joke (and not even actually at your expense, but the departed sally's) then you missed my point entirely.  
i make more typos than a publishing house full of dyslexics, yiou know?

calm down shitstand. horses heart is in the right place

calmer than you are

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(TheHorseMaster @ Jan 28 2011, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Language is a tool used to convey ideas, people that obsess over the difference between your and you're miss the fucking point. It's why english majors don't make shit, and people who speak tone based languages laugh at you.

if you cant tell by the laughing emoticons after my post meant it was a joke (and not even actually at your expense, but the departed sally's) then you missed my point entirely.  
i make more typos than a publishing house full of dyslexics, yiou know?

calm down shitstand. horses heart is in the right place

calmer than you are

im smoking weed right now dude. im good to go

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:42 PM

yeah bro, inhale that shiz. seems like you almost got his golden goat there. haha

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It's why english majors don't make shit, and people who speak tone based languages laugh at you.



edit- but if you believe, you can lower your electric bill!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:45 PM

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:21 PM

I dont get why people always scoff at "conspiracy" theories as being bullshit .. because if you think theres no conspiracies youre are sadly mistaken

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:24 PM

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I dont get why people always scoff at "conspiracy" theories as being bullshit .. because if you think theres no conspiracies youre are sadly mistaken

its a conspiracy to keep people from discovering the truth about conspiracies

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:55 PM

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I dont get why people always scoff at "conspiracy" theories as being bullshit .. because if you think theres no conspiracies youre are sadly mistaken


Because so often the conspirasists are stuck on their theories & hypotheses and twist the facts to fit their theory, rather than the other way around. Of course there are plenty of real conspiracies, the rationale behind the US invading Iraq or Shell's manipulation of Nigeria's government to get the oil out are two examples off the top of my head.

The reasons & methods behind the 4 hijacked planes are open to interpretation, the actuality of those planes crashing into the WTC and Pentagon is not.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 09:00 PM

The best way to hide a conspiracy is in plain sight,  blending into the everyday background. A national tragedy, in the middle of of one of the most populous areas in the world maybe in plain sight but it's far too exposed to have any hope of escaping notice. A guy sitting in the corner of a library selling schematics for the next generation of onboard combat radar is a conspiracy. Hell there actually were conspiracies afoot on 9/11, unfortunately for the truthers, the conspirers were the 19 hijackers and the network which supported them. And everyone already knows that story.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE(kyussfreak @ Jan 28 2011, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
my whole problem with the conspiracy theorist is this. do you know how much manpower it would take to pull of something like this? the government can pay any amount to keep these peoples mouths shut but in the end they would get much much more money for film rights and a book deal. so where are these people that made it happen? how come they havent come foward? if i was sitting on millions of dollars it would be hard for me to keep my mouth shut.


My words exactly!
Someone would have blabbed.


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Posted 29 January 2011 - 12:10 PM



They're on it.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE(TheHorseMaster @ Jan 28 2011, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your a fucking retard if all it took to convince you of this nonsense was a half assed low rent documentary by some washed up architect , who can't even address the most basic criticisms, of what he's attempting to pass off as theories.


You didnīt answer my question, so i believe you didnīt whatch it anyway. But talking of convincing some, what does it need in your opinion? A big assed high rent hollywood production? Come on, that guy is an architect collaborating whit other engineers, iīm not naive and i donīt fall for conspiracy theories, but what exactly is your profession to think this organisation is talking bullshit?

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 03:05 PM

I didn't watch the link, but I did do some research into this recently after a watching a conspiracy theorist on an Irish chat show. He kept repeating that over 1000 architects and engineers doubt the official reports. 1000+ seemed like a large enough number, large enough to motivate me into doing a little research. Of course, the guy did go on to talk about "shadow governments"...

Architectural and Engineering Professionals who support Architects And Engineers For 9/11 Truth: 1,425
American Institute of Architects Members: 83,500+
National Council of Structural Engineers Association Members: 12,000 (in 2003)

1425/(83500+12000) = 0.015 or 1.5%.

So, taking into account that there is probably more than 83,500 members of AIA, less than 1.5% of professionals have signed up for this.

Edit: there's obviously inadequacies involved with getting figures from the internet, but I think that my reckoning is fairly sound.

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